This interview actually began before I came up with the idea of the “imaginative interview,” and I’m just now finishing it. So, portions are “imaginative,” and other portions are about the art. But I think I like it that way. SSION is a talented band that’s as musical as it is artistic; with a touring, feature-length film entitled BOY and spotlights in periodicals such as Art in America, SSION has established itself as a force in the world of art pop. Cody Critcheloe, the frontman, speaks to us about performance, art, music, the formation of the band––Pepsi commercials, and dream homes! Accompanied by clips!
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Drew Krewer: How and where did your band form?
Cody Critcheloe: It has formed in so many places––it’s really hard to say. I started SSION when I was sixteen in Kentucky as a straight-up punk band in the vein of Pussy Galore and Suckdog. Then I went to art school, and it became somewhat “artistic” (I incorporated videos and costumes into the live set). After I graduated college, I wanted it to be a “real” band again so it got all punk in a Hole-meets-Stooges kind of way, except that we sort of sucked. Then I got really into pop, and we made a pop record (Fools Gold) and then a movie to accompany it (BOY). I’m working on a new record now, and it’s pop––but in Soft Cell/Pet Shop Boys kind of way. I’m excited about the new show… I’m thinking lots of white light and bras.
D: Your shows and videos are very performative… using technology, dancers, sets, and outrageously fabulous outfits. What is the importance of performance to SSION?
C: It really depends on the record I want to make and what I think is appropriate for the music. Sometimes I don’t feel like wearing costumes or make-up, so I don’t. When the music calls for a big show, I do the best that I can with what I’ve got. It all just depends… ultimately, performance is important, and I love the visual side of making music, but I’m not completely opposed to standing alone on stage with an acoustic guitar and long fingernails.
D: Does performance take an equal or more important role than the music, or… more generally, how are those two elements (music and performance) related?
C: Music is always first. I let the songs decide what kind of visual they need. But when I’m presenting the music I think the visual can be just as important.
D: What does SSION think about gender? Is that reflected in your art?
C: It’s hard to say. I feel like a dude. A gay dude. Sometimes I really hate dudes, and sometimes I like them. I do think girls are smarter and more poetic. I just get along better with chicks, and I’m sort of jealous of them, although I really don’t wanna be a chick. I just admire them socially and I think they usually do more interesting things or are allowed to do more interesting things in a more mainstream way. I still like guys and have guy friends, you know…
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D: If you were a type of tasty candy, what would you be and why?
C: I don’t like candy that much. Sometimes I’m into Twizzlers and Sour Patch Kids. But they really don’t taste like anything. I guess I would be an ice cold Pepsi.
D: Why the Pepsi commercial?
C: Because it’s the sweetest soft drink! And they’ve always had the best pop stars advertising their drink. We had some time while we were shooting the video for “Clown,” so it seemed like a fun thing to do… and I really love Pepsi–I was drinking in-between takes.
D: Your work seems lively and carefree, but it also looks like it took a great deal of work. So, how much of your success comes from “having fun” and how much comes from “hard work”?
C: I think it’s mostly hard work. I don’t have a lot of fun making the videos because I want them to be really good. I want them to be quick, funny, smart, and attractive. That’s hard to pull off… and it’s all being made by my friends on a shoestring budget…
D: How have your screenings of BOY been going? Any upcoming projects or ideas that are floating around?
C: They have been great. At this point, we’ve only screened it in Kansas City, Chicago, and LA. We’ll be doing a screening at Peres Projects in Berlin on June 26th. I think people are into it? It’s hard for me to tell.
I’ve been working on a new record and a new show and we just finished shooting a video for Peaches.
D: What would your dream home be like if you allowed your imagination to run wild?
C: That’s a hard question… I never really think about having a home–I just think about being rich. I always assume that when I become rich, I’ll never have time to appreciate a home because I’d be too busy. I’ll probably be able to give a better answer when I’m old and more concerned with that stuff. I guess I’d just want it to be really “nice.” Have a fully stocked fridge, a pool and a staff… I would really like to have a decked-out Honda Accord… several of them, actually.
D: I’ve noticed your appearance on the kid’s show Whoop-dee-doo. If you were commissioned to do a kid’s show, with an infinite supply of resources, what would the show be like?
C: Something similar to Pee Wee’s Playhouse, but with more blood and guts and food. I’m not really into kid show stuff. I wish there were still things like Top of the Pops and American Bandstand happening. When I was a kid, it was my dream to play one of those shows…
D: Finally, in the spirit of the digital museum, what are some online treasures you’d like to share with the world and why?
C: 1) WISEBLOOD, “STUMBO”
Just really feeling this song right now. I think Thirlwell is a genius and SO SEXY!
2) LYDIA LUNCH INTERVIEW
All hail the queen!
3) BILLY JOEL, “UPTOWN GIRL”
An amazing pop song and an amazing video… I aspire to make a song this good and a video this good. Wish me luck!
4) ROISIN MURPHY “MOMMA’S PLACE”
I like to pretend this song is about Lady Gaga. This should be a drag queen anthem.
